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No evidence is given that the writer who wrote the text died more than 70 years ago Teofilo (talk) 21:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Does anybody care about the content of this page of text? But if you must, cropp it, blur it or scramble it. The photograph (Photo by Sunbeam, Margate) is anonymous, as they employed lots of photographers. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 00:40, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

In the UK one needs to make a "reasonable enquiry" before asserting that a content is anonymous. Teofilo (talk) 13:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

The reasonable inquiry is to look at the original publication, and see that it was anonymously published. I also read this article about what Sunbeam was. But you are demanding unreasonable inquiry. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 13:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

This is just a general editorial piece on the front cover (no named writer and contains passages that start "We now give an account ...") It's therefore a bit of a stretch to suppose that anyone's copyright is being affected - we don't get to see the whole article anyway, it's just a passage of factual, non-creative report writing. The current editor of BCM, an ocasional wiki-editor himself, wrote the article to which the image is attached and so clearly approves of it's use here. Brittle heaven (talk) 10:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Generally, copyrighted excerpts are counted as "fair use". But "fair use" contents are not allowed here on Commons. They may be uploaded directly on the English language Wikipedia in some circumstances, though. Teofilo (talk) 13:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

"clearly approves" : Perhaps he is not the copyright holder (what if the journalist is a freelance journalist ? What about the picture ?) and even if he is, he might allow only "fair use" within a Wikipedia article and nothing else. Teofilo (talk) 13:32, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

•  Keep I just checked the entire issue of the magazine and as far as I can tell, no authors are mentioned anywhere (it looks like the whole magazine is anonymous). Richard Clewin Griffith (1872-1955) was the editor back then, but that doesn't mean that he wrote the article or holds the copyright. The only indication about the photo is that it was taken by a Sunbeam photographer, but as explained by Pieter, this isn't enough to find out who took the photo, which should therefore also be considered anonymous. My understanding is that {{PD-UK-unknown}} applies to the text and the photo. The work became PD in the UK in 1994 and is therefore also PD in the US. Pruneau^talk 17:56, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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Kept following the research of Pruneau MichaelMaggs (talk) 16:29, 3 May 2009 (UTC)